Bloody ***in HOT !

I knew when I chose Sam Winchester as one of my bad boys I did not go wrong! In episode 4.16 "Head of a Pin" Sam drinks Ruby's demon blood to help add to his powers. That might have been hot enough, but in the next scene we see visual proof thatthe blood changes him as his eyes go from light to black!

And finally! OMG! Sammy shows us he's gotthe Force..and it's looking more like the hand of Vader everyday, because Sam can not only use TK and compulsion. He not only can exorcise....he can KILL WITH HIS BRAIN!

Yet, despite the fist of Vader (Sam, uh did you watch Star Wars)? I really wonder if Sam's powers are more angelic in nature and are only being corrupted due to outside influences (angels, Ruby and Dean's fear).

After "It's a Terrible Life" I think that Dean denied Sam and I think that will show up later this season. I have a bad feeling Dean will deny Sam and send him away or break them apart.

So I will wildly speculate:

There are 5 episodes left this season. They are titled

4.18 Monster at the End of This Book

4.19 Jump the Shark

4.20 The Rapture

4.21 When the Levee Breaks

4.22 Lucifer Rising

My personal fav title is when the levee breaks...I'm actually listening to it at the moment. I picture a really pissed looking Sam driving (notice he always looks pissed while driving)?

Here's the specualation:

4.18 Either an angel or the trickster made this odd book series happen. And/or Dean learns he's been wrong all along, there is fate and he can't change it. I don't believe the spoiler that Sam would sell off Dean's soul to Lillith. No, but his own, oh yeh. My spoils for this one are making it hard to guess, best wait out Thursday.

4.19 The brother is real and he is tainted by the Supernatural. He can't go back to normal (like Madison the werewold) and the brothers fight over killing him. Sam and Dean part here.

4.20 We see Castiel's life and the havoc Lillith is rendering. I think the boys will be apart.

4.21 It's gonna be ugly. This is the intervention episode. I don't think Bobby and Dean are going to succeed. I can only imagine what other powers Sammy has up his sleeve! Squee!!!!

4.22 Last seal???? Lucifer actually walks? IDK. But I'm leaning towards Sam being carved into the perfect instrument to defeat him, except I don't think it'll happen this season. I can picture Sam getting badly hurt (eventually they need to pander to those who kink hurt!Sam) and fighting Lucifer could be and should be extremely difficult. So Sam's in the hospital and DEan goes back to the room, but there is no Sam. He's disappeared! Where too, and how? IDK...works for me as a cliffie and you know this cliffie will be HUGE!

So that's my thoughts for now.

I'll leave with an evil!Dean the torturer:

"Jillian" by Within Temptation

This is a rather haunting song. Fits both Sam and Dean, heck fits Kyp, fits Zekk, and all the damned vampires who want redemption. So here it is:

I've been dreaming for so long, to find a meaning to understand.
The secret of life, why am I here to try again?
Will I always, will you always see the truth when it stares you in the face?

Will I ever, will I never free myself by breaking these chains?

I'd give my heart, I'd give my soul.

I'd turn it back, it's my fault.

Your destiny is forlorn, have to live till it's undone.

I'd give my heart, I'd give my soul.

I'd turn it back and then at last I'll be on my way.

I've been living for so long, many seasons have past me by.

I've seen kingdoms through ages rise and fall, I've seen it all.

I've seen the horror, I've seen the wonders happening just in front of my eyes.

Will I ever, will I never free myself by making it right?

Sex and Violence: The Kids Aren't All Right

They’re so not all right, and Bobby knew this as he left them by that bridge that they can not cross over. Don’t be hard on Bobby. He’s neither their father nor a couples therapist. He’s their friend, and though more a mentor than a peer within the hunting community, he knows you won’t get far trying to boss around a Winchester. And Bobby wasn’t there to hear what Sam said. He doesn’t know the half of it, because Bobby also doesn’t know Sam Winchester has demon blood and wields the Hand of Ipecac.

Sam has been so silent this season everyone figured Kripke had it out for him, but I held fast to the belief his silence spoke volumes. And now we know. Now we know more than we wanted to know about just what Sam is thinking.

I don’t care if Sam tries to use the excuse he was under a spell when he told Dean those hurtful things, because that’s BS. Those words were spoken from his subconscious and they were real.

The siren planted a hyacinth at the scene. In the language of flowers, the hyacinth is the symbol of sincerity.

Sam was the most honest in this episode since early season two. Still, it seems honesty is not the best policy and all those times Sam has had no response to Dean it is understandable. Better to say nothing than to say the wrong thing. But when Sam lets it all out: watch out. I think of what he said in two parts. First off there is the whole, I’m better-stronger-smarter than you comment. To me, that was a testosterone filled sibling rivalry comment. Sam has always been competitive and strives to be his best at whatever he does. It would be natural for him to think he was superior to Dean. In HS I’m sure he felt his academics gave him an edge, later once he considered himself a hunter he naturally wanted to be top of the game there too.

It’s the second comment that was more barbed: “You’re holding me back.” It’s like saying he doesn’t need Dean at all. And that’s one of Dean’s deepest fears, the fear that causes him to project an entirely different Sammy onto the man Sam is now. In “Metamorphosis” Dean spoke his fear: “You don’t need me. You and Ruby go fight demons.”

Sadly, that’s exactly what they were doing and doing well until Dean showed up. Again, in Sex and Violence, Sam reminds Dean he doesn’t need him. He and Ruby will find Lillith. Dean isn’t strong enough for the fight. Part of this could be Sam’s new found protective instinct over Dean. It’s an instinct of a big brother who considers the other lesser or weaker and in need of protection. Sam has demonstrated this all season and Dean has fed that need from nearly being eaten by the Rugaru in Meta, to his capture in MM, to his nightmares, the drinking, his paranoid collapse in YF, his beating at Alastair’s hand. Sam has been there to save his ass.

But the whole: “So you tortured souls, boo-hoo!” Holy crap Sam, what a bastard!

Which makes me think of the Foreigner song: “Cold as Ice”

That would be Sam. Cold as Ice. And much of it is protective instinct. He wants to not be hurt, not be rejected.

So even if the siren’s venom made Sam think the thoughts he did, what planted them? Do his “power-up” sessions with Ruby stir the demon blood and make him more mean, more cruel or spiteful? More like a demon? Beware when you fight the monsters, lest you become one of them.

Is that why Dean was so eager to point out to Sam that he slept with monsters…meaning you are one: I’d hunt you. Remember that was sincerity without the venom.

Oh Sammy!

I've been neglecting my thinky thoughts lately. In the last episode: "Criss Angel is a Douchebag", Sam and Ruby have a little talk. [Well it's more like a bitchiness fest...but let's not nit-pick, shall we]?

See, there's something Sam has to do to sort of up his game, and it's not just practice by exorcising more demons, it's like that's good Sam, but we need you better. Here, try this shot of steroids!

And Sam doesn't want to dope up...but in the end of the episode he makes the decision to do so to help Dean. The episode focused on whether it's better to burn out or fade away. Or if you can choose option 3 and grow old gracefully. Appearently this is the ending Sammy's hoping for, but you kinda think in the end it's the ending he hopes to give his brother. For Sam, it looks like full martyrdom to the cause of ending Lillith and saving the world.

All too exciting if you ask me!

Stupid speculation: Again!

In a show that gives us the “boy with the demon blood” and his brother who spent 10 years as a demon, where exactly might they go next?

I’ve seen this theory bantered about, and so I’m going to take off with it:

Sam’s gonna be Lucifer’s vessel and have to fight him from within. Sam has been groomed since age 6 months to be the best. Forced into hunting as a child and later as an adult, Sam has always been better trained than the other psychic kids. He is best suited to be able to handle the power of being possessed by Lucifer.

But let’s not stop there! Let’s throw a wrench into the plan, one that Lucifer himself might like. What if:

Dean and Sam are apostolic protectors of Lucifer’s grace?



We now know that angels possess the grace of God while they are in their heavenly form, but if they fall, the grace is lost or scattered. So theoretically Lucifer’s grace has to be out there somewhere, and I bet he wants it back. But where do you keep the grace of the number one fallen angel? That’s potent stuff to let fall on some random cornfield in Kentucky. I bet God has it locked up really tight: in the body’s of special living people.

And I’ll speculate one of them is Dean Winchester. And here’s how (and yeh, it’s hokey, but so was Anna’s grace in a vial hanging from Uriel’s neck).

The grace of Lucifer was passed to all the disciples who carry it within their bloodlines and pass it through the generations. It is scattered around the Earth, but not too many ancestors exist who carry it. However, Dean and Sam are the two left with the greatest power, they were descended from Mary Magdalene and Jesus. That’s why God wanted Dean out of Hell because once they are dead and in Hell, Lucifer an reclaim his grace from them. Fortunately, Lucifer needs more than one person’s grace. Though he has captured many over the years, the strongest is of Jesus’ bloodline. And he has never held that grace before. Now, the only two left on Earth with this blood are Sam and Dean. That’s why Mary smelled so good to Azazel, he knew. Lucifer prefers a Christ blood as he will be strongest when he takes the grace from within.

Now who are all the other psychic kids? They are all the apostolic carriers of the grace, purposefully marked by Azazel, tainted so they might go wrong and end up in Hell where Lucifer could get the grace, tainted through a blood rite that opens their earthly bodies to possible possession by Lucifer. There are many psychic kids because it isn’t easy to make it to the finish line and some are also back up for Sammy to be Lucifer’s vessel. But not the favorites. For Sam will have the strongest of abilities and the grace of Jesus’ bloodline inside.

How will Sam beat him? He will be trapped inside with Lucifer and he will have to overcome him. Dean will fight like crazy to save his brother and maybe we’ll have some divine intervention!
Things that happen in each episode are often a foreshadowing of events to come. Good example was the season two episode Crossroads Blues”. Later of course we see Dean make his desperate deal to save Sam. So I think that Anna’s lost grace will also come into play later on. Probably not this way, but it is fun to make guesses.

Wow! I don't really know what to make of this!

At live journal someone posted that baby Sam's eyes flashed yellow after Azazel gave him the demon blood. I'd never noticed, but sure enough I watched AHBL I in slow motion (you know, where they are in the nursury flash back) and it HAPPENED !!!!!!!!

Yeh, I'd be crying too Sammy if some nasty demon bled in my mouth and then killed my mommy!

There's another part of this that makes me wonder now:

Sam says: "I have demon blood in me?" And Azazel chuckles at him. Is it possible that Sam's got more than demon blood via drinking it? Was he born that way? Could he be a literal son of Azazel? Sure Azazel said he wouldn't have sex with Mary, but does that mean he wouldn't possess John long enough to make a little mix in the conception of the boy?

After all, he calls them his "psychic kids". And if Azazel is indeed a fallen angel, I'm guessing he has some pretty big powers.

What I do know is that Kripke is the magnificent bastard to have put that flash of yellow in Sam's eyes way back when. So I'm guessing Dean didn't hallucinate in "Yellow Fever" when he saw Sam's eyes flash at the end. But what that all means....I just don't know.

Saving things....the family business

"Bloodlust"

"Metamorphosis"

Collective thoughts over the episodes regarding Sam's potential decent into darkness. Or, honestly, I know there's a way to make this into a logically connected post. I think it was after reading that there are two episodes in which Dean punches Sam that I became interested in the connections between those episodes: Bloodlust and Metamorphosis. What was the purpose in the punch and was it received the same way?

I think it was all about Dean's frustrations with not being able to see Sam's point of view. They think differently, and Dean wants Sam to always see it his way. And when Sam doesn't, Dean secretly fears this is a part of Sam not wanting him, not needing him, potentially abandoning him. I mean, in "Bloodlust" Sam was: "No, we can't listen to Gordon, we can't do this or that." And in "Metamorphosis": Dean was the one saying. "why do you need me to help you hunt demons, you have Ruby". Either way, Dean was afraid Sam wouldn't need him.

Push push push Dean! You'll be the one sending Sammy down the dark path!

Dean tells him if it’s supernatural, they kill it, it’s their job. Sam says no, they’re job is hunting evil, and these things aren’t evil. It takes Dean much longer to come around to this way of thinking. But by "Sin City" he's starting to be more accepting of differing POV. Is this because Sam recognizes the supernatural in himself?

"Playthings" 2.11

"Dean, promise me..."

"Heart" 2.17

"I will do this, because she asked me to, and when the time comes,
you must be strong and do the same for me."

"Heart" 2.17
"Why can't there be a choice?" That's what you're thinking, but by season four Dean, you've changed your tune back to early season two's 'supernatural we hunt it....' DEAN! You're not Gordon! Stay sane!!!

THE JUDGEMENT FACES:

"Bloodlust"

"It hurts me to see you so angry and cold."

"Metamorphosis" 4.04

"If I didn't know you, I'd hunt you!"

THE REACTINS TO THE JUDGEMENT:

"Metamorphosis" 4.04

"That means, God doesn't like what you're doing."

"Dean, you actually enjoyed killing." [I don't think God approves]

Dean! You came back from the dead! You ARE a supernatural being! Stop listening to others (listening to Gordon was dumb and you learned that) and listen to your heart. You've always known what's best for Sam. You'd know if he were evil.

Search your feelings! You know this to be true!

And you know Dean, that there is plenty of good in him.

Sam Winchester: Powers of Light or Powers of Darkness?

Sam never realized or experienced his powers until he was 22. They first came to him in the form of a nightmare that he didn’t heed. But then, why should he have considered it precognition to dream of his girlfriend dying in the same manner his mother had. Though he never saw his mother’s death, I’m sure the stories he heard from his father and Dean were vivid enough to give him nightmares as a child and teen. So he likely just thought he was transferring that horror to Jessica.

Then it happened just as he dreamt it, and though Sam doesn’t share this with Dean, you know it had to be driving him mad inside. Knowing he saw what would happen and did nothing to prevent it. But at the time, how would he have believed himself? He wouldn’t have, but this is Sam and I am sure he was packing plenty of guilt.

"Bloody Mary" is the first episode that shows Sam's potential abilities, but it is only hinted at that Sam had the psychic dream (it’s the secret he tells Dean he is carrying but refuses to share). His mirror image calls him out on it and states: “It’s your fault, you killed Jessica. You never told her the truth. Who you really were. But it’s more than that isn’t it. Those nightmares you’ve been having of Jessica dying, screaming, burning. You had them for days before she die. You were so desperate to be normal, to believe they were just dreams. How could you ignore them like that?”

That’s his inner guilt talking.

But the dreams didn’t go away. We see them manifest in “Home” when he dreams of the tree in front of their old house-an image he couldn’t possibly remember. And he is forced to tell Dean so Dean will take this as a “job”.

Sammy confesses: “I have these nightmares…and sometimes they come true.”

To which Dean replies [as only Dean could]: “First you tell me that you got the shining…and then you tell me that I got to go back home.”

When they meet Missouri and she touches Sam, you just know there will be a connection. She’s reading power off him in waves. And the look on his face tells you he isn’t all that surprised another psychic would pick up his vibe.

After they first negate the poltergeist, Missouri feels it is over, but Sam hesitates. His face reads like he still feels a presence though he simply says: “It’s nothing.” Sam is still in denial of his abilities, his new mission as a hunter, his journey. Being still powered by hunter’s instinct Dean and Sam wait outside and once there’s trouble rush back in to find the poltergeist back.

The flaming ghost approaches Sam and he recognizes that it’s his mother. She says so little here, just looks at them with love. But she does say: “I’m sorry.” to Sam (which I could speculate on all day), but this is about Sam’s powers, not the destiny thingy. After Mary truly negates the poltergeist, Sam can feel that the trouble is gone. Missouri can’t answer Sam as to what is happening to him. But later she says to John: “ That boy, he has such powerful abilities, why he couldn’t sense his own father, I have no idea.”

And so we are officially off into the realm of possibilities. Our hero, just discovered he could use the Force so to speak. So what did Sam think of it at that point? He hadn’t yet heard the YED say he had plans for him….which I think made Sam connect his abilities with evil.

Evidence points to Sam thinking the special abilities are only one sided: evil. They are a “gift” of the YED. That’s why, in season three, he states the visions are all gone now that the demon is dead. Is this Sam’s way of attempting to reconnect to the normal or is it just a cop out (or more annoying denial)?

But before the YED states this what does Sam think? It took him 6 months to share his secret with Dean, whom he trusts with his life. Sammy doesn’t like being different, doesn’t want to be the freak. After all, these guys hunt the strange, and Sam doesn’t want to be among them. He even differentiates this to Dean:

“We hunt evil, not all supernatural things are evil.” [Paraphrased by me]

So I think initially Sam thought his abilities were a fluke, weird, uncomfortable. They confused him (witness him asking Missouri why he had them) and he’d like answers. But he doesn’t see them as harmful, especially in light of watching sweet Missouri use her psychic abilities so judiciously.

When the visions finally lead him to Max in “Nightmare” he identifies with Max and tries to help him. But, he also learns that Max uses his telekinesis for revenge. That the abilities can easily be misused especially if the person has been abused as Max was.

Sam’s visions are now happening during the day and seem stress triggered. They seem to be the natural gift he possesses, but once he realizes his inability to act will result in Dean’s death he pushes out with his mind and moves the china cabinet. This is Sam’s only use of TK in season one through three (though he tried hard to use it in Devil’s Trap~to no avail). Is this because he now knows that TK exists that he knows he might be able to do it? Still, at this point he won’t consider it to be a demonic power since he still hasn’t met up with YED.

Sam’s powers save the life of baby Rosie and her family in “Salvation”. Here, Sam may not think he is in control of them, yet he heeds them and follows the clues they provide him with. He’s having the visions as he walks to that neighborhood. Subconsciously he is tapping into the strength as the pressure of saving the family’s life builds.

Yet, we think of the ramped up powers gifted to Jake in AHBL2 once he gives in to [yeh, for lack of a better word: the darkside]. Same concept, you let your emotions control you and boom instant magnifier of power.

Once season two came along Sam is a big bundle of confusion. Now what, use this ability and be a demon? But Sam is convinced he doesn’t use the ability, it uses him [is this some form of bargaining on his part~his way of grieving the loss of his normal life]? It all goes back to the choices, and free will vs. destiny thing that weighs heavily on Sam’s mind season 2. He doesn’t even actively try to take control of his visions because of his fear he might be doing the wrong thing.

From “Simon Says”: “Every premonition I've had, if they're not about the demon they're about the other kids the demon visited. Like Max Miller, remember him?”

Later in the show:

SAM: Yeah, maybe this is his plan, maybe we're all a bunch of psychic freaks, maybe we're all supposed to be —

DEAN: What, killers?

SAM: Yeah.

When Andy turns his power on Dean and Sam it only affects Dean, who can’t stop from telling his true feelings:

I'm trying. He's psychic. Kind of like you. Well, not really like you, but see, he thinks you're a murderer, and he's afraid that he's going to become one himself, 'cause you're all part of something that's terrible. And I hope to hell that he's wrong, but I'm starting to get a little scared that he might be right.

This only intensifies Sam’s belief that his powers spring from something truly evil.

By the end of Season Two Sam has watched others’ morph from innocent to killers. The YED has given him a vision of his mother’s death and promises of greatness. This does little to help either the viewer or Sam understand what is happening.

Sam (IMHO) uses three powers in Season Three:

super strength, mind persuasion, and demon resist.

In "Fresh Blood", Sam faces Gordon who has just been turned into a Vampire. Sam kills him with his bare hands by wrapping razor wire around his neck and strangling him until his head is severed. It’s pretty graphic and Sam’s face is as scary as a monsters. Was it a fluke? Was it supernatural strength. Vampires are mighty strong and Gordon was out to kill. Sam made it look all too easy, leading me to believe he was channeling the strength we see Jake use in AHBL.

In "Dream a little dream" Sam is being attacked brutally by Jeremy within Dean's dreams. He turns the tables on Jeremy by "summoning" the boy's father to distract him, suddenly Sam is no longer tied down. He attacks and kills Jeremy within the dream world. Where did Jeremy's father come from? Later, Bobby asks Sam directly how he planted that idea in the dram and if it could have been one of his psychic powers. Even Sam replies, he's not sure.

Sam’s undeniable use of power comes at the moment of Dean’s death and his potential annihilation by Lillith. Intitionally able to pin him to the wall Lillith blasts Sam with her sonic demon light….but wait! Nothing happens. Sam’s cowering in the corner (no doubt having expected to be blasted away), but alive and well and unstuck. So he gets up (all be it a little surprised at this turn of events) and gets strong, picking up the demon killing knife and advancing on Lillith whom he now knows holds no power over him.

It apears from the first episode of Season Four Sam is learning to control his powers, but will they control him until he learns to strike a balance…

…and isn’t that the point of our human existance?


I'm willing to put on record now (9/20/08) that Sam's powers are not demonic. He simply is a human with special powers. Special powers that greatly interest demons (and should frighten demons after we saw what he can do to them). But if Sam continues to think it's a demonic gift rather than an inherent capability he just may given in to using them for the wrong reasons. He may create a self-fulfilling prophesy for himself. I don't think Sam is evil. I think he has free will, but if he stops believing he has a choice, that will lead to his doom.

Here are the lyrics that fit Jacen perfectly

Drowning deep in my sea of loathing
Broken your servant I kneel
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems what's left of my human side
Is slowly changing in me
(Will you give in to me?)
Looking at my own reflection
When suddenly it changes
Violently it changes
There is no turning back now
You've woken up the demon in me

Get up, come on get down with the sickness
Open up your hate, and let it flow into me
Get up, come on get down with the sickness
You mother get up come on get down with the sickness
You f*cker get up come on get down with the sickness
Madness is the gift, that has been given to me

I can see inside you, the sickness is rising
Don't try to deny what you feel
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems that all that was good has died
And is decaying in me
(Will you give in to me?)
It seems you're having some trouble
In dealing with these changes
Living with these changes
The world is a scary place
Now that you've woken up the demon in me



Very sad!

Kyp at 16

Remember "James at 15"? I never got it maybe cause I was like 7 at the time. Kyp arrived in Coruscant aboard the Suncrusher; as he dismounted the space ship he exclaimed "now that's a city!" He was at times described as a boy, teen, young man, and by Han: a kid. He had lived in Kessel so long he had nearly abandoned hope until Han and Chewbacca, and then he had hope, it quickly returned, lots of it and he wasn't going to give it away. After facing death and helplessness at the Maw he discovered something new, he could abandon fear also. Abandon it completely? No, but he seems able to put it off for needed times (such as escaping the Maw and flying past black holes). He also shows limited fear when he meets Exar Kun. (okay so some of it is pure teenage intrepidness).

How is Kyp with Han? He instantly seems to trust him and follow his lead. He is described: "had clung to Han..." They seem to think of each other as friends, but with a 25 year span I'm sure Han had some paternal feelings for him. I'm sure Han must have invited him to stay at his home for the month Kyp is described as being on Coruscant. Heck even Wedge says the kid deserves some vacation after all he'd been through (not that Wedge would be wanting to champioin him for long!).

So Kyp tries to be fearless, yet is nervous Luke won't accept him. It's obvious being a Jedi became very important to him once he realized what he could do with his powers. He is very curious and likes learning (which we all know get's him into trouble).

So what would Kyp's brief time on Coruscant been like? Hmmmm do I hear fanfiction?

So maybe Jacen is not a sociopath...

...he's just a narcissist. I did a marathon reading of bloodlines last night and I am too tired to post my reactions yet. Suffice it to say Karen Traviss did NOT ignore the Jedi, but she writes an entirely human story. It didn't feel like Star Wars at all and I don't know why yet, let me ponder that. I mean after all, what the kriff does SW "feel" like?

My instant reaction was to like the book. I think I like the idea of war not being a black and white issue (wrong/right whose side you on). I liked seeing Ben's thoughts, I'm intrigued by crazy Jacen. I feel real pity for Luke and Han. Han should retire, and he can't and it is ridiculous and embarracssing. Luke is dithering, but htis time it makes sense. Mara is still failing to win me any simpathy and Jaina's part is too small.

I will write a complete review later when more awake! Oh and Jacen does mind wipe during a torture session; so the picture I made is accurate.

The Darkside is Addiction

IMHO the Darkside can be compared to drug addiction. It is easy, and seductive and seems so good at the time, but then it slowly destroys you. Something that seems so good ends up producing bad consequences.

So thinking about the SW characters who have gone to the darkside I have created a real world analogy to their level of drug addiction.

Sideous is like Keith Richards. He's used all the drugs and it's made him look really bad, but it has never killed him.

Vader is like Kurt Cobain. He is a tragic man whose circumstances led him to use. As he used he fell in it more and more deeply. He has redeeming qualities, but it was too late in the end.

Luke is the classic dabbler. Not really an addict, just tried things so he'd gain a better understanding. Now he knows the dangers and will usually avoid it especially when he is feeling overly critical of himself. He's the kind of guy who quit the really bad drugs, but still drinks socially and smokes pot on occasion.

Mara used drugs (ie. the darkside) because she hung with the wrong crowd. Now that she's with Luke she follows his philosophy. She was never an addict, just abused it, and now she's over it.

Kyp is the teenaged drunk driver who killed the bus load of school children or derailed a train...massive injuries to many people...oh the guilt!

Zekk is my favorite because he's like the teen who used drugs and quit, but now 20 years later he still goes to NA and says, "Hi, I'm Zekk and I went to the darkside." He's the guy who will NEVER use anything ever again.

Jaina hit the bottle hard during a crisis, but she never really had a serious problem. She's over it now.

Jacen, well Jacen is quite simple: HE'S IN DENIAL !!!